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2011年4月22日星期五

Damascus at dawn - Ha'aretz

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Syrian President Bashar Assad promised this week to rescind his country's emergency regime, after nearly 48 years. Later he announced that the police commissioner of the city of Banias would be dismissed because of the killing of demonstrators there, and that new laws relating to communication and political parties, as well as legislation permitting more than five people to assemble (thus legalizing demonstrations ), would be enacted.

Syria - Reuters - April 17, 2011

Boys hold a banner during a demonstration in the the Syrian port city of Banias April 17, 2011.

However, much of what has been taking place in the Syrian regime recently is reminiscent of the actions of former Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, who used all manner of tricks to stay in power during his final days. Like Mubarak, Assad dismissed his government, used thugs in civilian dress to suppress demonstrations (in Egypt they were called baltajia; in Syria, shabiha ) and of course he also scattered promises of reforms and replacement of key officials. In any event, at this stage, Assad is still not yet where Mubarak was in the wake of the Tahrir Square protests: He has not yet been forced to appoint a deputy and to transfer his powers to him.

There is another major difference between Assad and Mubarak: In Syria, the army unequivocally stands behind the president. We can also assume that Assad, like Libyan ruler Muammar Gadhafi, has drawn what seems like the logical conclusion from Mubarak's fall: to use as much brutality as possible and ignore American protests, since that is the only way to stay in power. Assad and Gadhafi, as opposed to Mubarak, did not rely on American support and therefore consider themselves free of the restrictions that Mubarak faced.

But the key word in Syria is "still," for even Assad's military support is likely to evaporate. On his orders the army and the security services have slaughtered civilians in Deraa, Latakia, Homs and Aleppo. That can't go on forever.

Although the Alawite minority holds most of the important positions in the army there, there are enough Sunni officers in sensitive positions who will consider abandoning Assad if the trouble continues. In Egypt, Tunisia, Libya and Yemen, for example, soldiers and policemen have deserted to the opposition.

Meanwhile, Assad will continue announcing reforms and surviving from Friday to Friday, the day when major demonstrations are held, hoping they'll peter out. It is clear the president and his people are trying to keep Damascus free of riots, and they are succeeding so far. That is also a major difference as compared to Egypt: There have been almost no major protests in Syria's capital. If unrest erupts in Damascus, too, Bashar, his wife Asma and the rest of their family will be forced to start looking for refuge. Tehran might just fit the bill.

Unlike Eastern Europe in the 1980s, in the Middle East of 2011 there is no single solid cornerstone, like the Soviet Union. Not even Egypt. And yet, it is impossible to ignore the far-reaching international influences of recent events. In a world with Al Jazeera around, it is doubtful whether a young man in Damascus will accept life without certain rights while his counterpart in Cairo is having his voice heard for the first time.

Changing of the guard

The negotiations over a prisoner exchange to redeem kidnapped soldier Gilad Shalit made major headlines this week, but it would not be an exaggeration to say that nothing significant has happened since December 2009. April 2011 is an era of a changing of the guard, in this realm. Senior Mossad official David Meidan will be replacing Hagai Hadas as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's special envoy for the negotiations. According to Hamas, Gerhard Conrad will resign and be replaced by another German mediator.

The spring and summer months offer the media many occasions to report on the family's suffering again: another seder without Gilad, another anniversary of his kidnapping (in June ), another birthday in captivity (in August ). Journalists, seeking opportunities to attack Netanyahu, exploit these dates to emphasize the his inactivity.

The relationship between supply (protests by the family and Shalit's supporters ) and demand (by the media ) generates phenomena that contribute nothing to the effort but another headline. These have included stopping traffic around the country for five minutes, having a seder on the sidewalk in front of the Netanyahu residence, holding a demonstration during the cabinet session, holding solidarity visits to the protest tent. But the Shalit family never really removes its gloves, and at this stage, even in light of the flood of images and gimmicks, it is doubtful whether any of the protest measures are having an effect.

According to various statements by Netanyahu, the heart of the dispute between Israel and Hamas is where to send the 450 senior terrorists that Hamas demands to be freed. The prime minister is refusing to release some of them, and is insisting others be expelled to Europe or Gaza - not to their West Bank homes. In December 2009 Netanyahu went further than his predecessor Ehud Olmert had earlier that year, but even that was not enough to close the deal.

There are two main reasons for this. The first and more important one concerns Hamas' military leadership: Ahmed Jabari and Mohammed Def are rejecting any deal that does not humiliate Israel. Sometimes it seems they would only agree if all 450 prisoners were to be released to their homes (along with 550 additional prisoners chosen by Israel ). Although Moussa Abu Marzouk, deputy head of the Hamas political branch in Damascus, said this week that "Hamas will not be able to obtain the release of all prisoners" - he does not seem to have a definitive role.

Despite the fact that the political wing in Damascus and the political leadership in Gaza apparently want to close a deal, the military wing's veto is preventing this. One of Israel's significant failures in the negotiations so far involves its maneuverings between Hamas' divisions. Another is Netanyahu's behavior. Toward the very end of Olmert's term, it was reported that Netanyahu had granted his predecessor an "open ticket" to strike a deal before his new government took power. Even in his first months on the job, Netanyahu appeared willing to advance an agreement, but Jabari's stubbornness apparently changed his mind.

Last month Haaretz journalist Yossi Verter quoted Netanyahu as telling Likud MKs that he is standing "all alone" in the face of pressure to conclude an agreement that would free large numbers of murderers. Meanwhile, Defense Minister Ehud Barak, who often attacked Olmert for his refusal to be more flexible, has fallen silent. Even in the meeting with the Shalits before Passover, Netanyahu said he did not intend to be more flexible.

Are there other ways to pressure Hamas to be more conciliatory? Hadas, who was highly praised as a Mossad operative, supports such measures. There may even be some going on, as reflected in recent reports of the kidnapping of Hamas engineer Dirar Abu Sisi in Ukraine and the assassination of Tayser Abu Snima of Rafah, who was involved in Shalit's kidnapping.

In an announcement made on his behalf by the Prime Minister's Office, Hadas said he is leaving for family reasons, thus not responding to speculation that his departure is due to Netanyahu's indecisiveness.

On the other hand, Hamas and Hezbollah are apparently working to guarantee that Shalit will not be the Islamic terror groups' only Israeli captive.

Post-Goldstone

Judge Richard Goldstone's op-ed in The Washington Post expressing partial regret for his eponymous report on Operation Cast Lead was enthusiastically received in Israel, but it had only a minor effect internationally. The other members of his United Nations commission attacked him, and Netanyahu's declared intent to establish an Israeli team to have the report formally voided is no more than a public relations move. The main thing the article did is to allow Goldstone once again to attend Yom Kippur services at his South Africa synagogue.

In any case, Goldstone, who did in fact change his mind (with considerable courage ), is not really exempting Israel from condemnation and international sanctions in the next round of fighting, whether in Lebanon or Gaza, which will not differ greatly from Cast Lead.

The fact that Military Advocate General Avichai Mandelblit came to his senses and belatedly convinced then-Chief of Staff Gabi Ashkenazi to begin a extensive investigation into the operation's alleged war crimes reduced the Goldstone report's damage and spurred Goldstone to reconsider. But the refusal by Barak and Ashkenazi to allow people outside the army to participate in the investigation - ostensibly as a show of support for IDF soldiers - damaged Israel's argument.

Article 5 in the Turkel Commission mandate for investigating the deaths aboard the Gaza flotilla examines Israel's policy of investigating violations during times of combat. Last week the commission heard testimony from several people, including Tel Aviv University Prof. Eyal Benvenisti, one of the leading Israeli experts on international law.

In a sharp, detailed and reasoned document, Benvenisti takes issue with Mandelblit's testimony before the commission, saying that he has been mistaken in refusing to recognize international law as totally binding, and that he allows himself too much freedom to decide when to open investigations and how to conduct them.

Benvenisti claims that during combat, the army has "an obligation: to intentionally not harm civilians," as anchored in the IDF's own binding ethical code. The army's obligation to investigate complaints is not limited to "the vague obligation to act in good faith," he notes. "Investigation is an inseparable part of the framework designed to ensure that essential obligations are upheld during combat."

He continues: "The obligation to investigate falls particularly on the military command, not only as a matter of principle but also due to specific instructions to prevent war crimes and to punish perpetrators.

"If these obligations are not met, the commanders may bear criminal responsibility for their subordinates' actions," Benvenisti writes, adding, "The civilian legal system is directly obliged to investigate civilians who were responsible, directly or through their orders, for combat violations."

He notes that in general, partial information about suspected war crimes is enough to require an investigation: "According to the MAG's document, the military prosecution appears to take a passive attitude ... waiting for evidence without taking steps to clear up erroneous information and is even liable to get dangerously close to the boundaries of criminal prohibition."

Benvenisti adds, "The MAG operates almost in a vacuum in constitutional terms. The civilian system inappropriately shrugs off its authority and responsibility in the field of combat rules, granting the military the exclusive authority to set the rules for warfare, examination and investigation and even the trial process."

The MAG himself has a conflict of interest because the chief of staff can decide whether he will receive the personal rank of general (as happened to the two previous MAGs ), notes Benvenisti. The MAG's rank must be determined via regulations, he says.

"It is only natural that the chief of staff will not want to give up the power to grant a rank to a potential critic," he adds.

Benvenisti believes it is not clear whether the civilian system can properly monitor whether the chief of staff has abided by proper combat rules, without discussing the IDF's de facto conduct.

He proposes a series of alternatives: establishing a Justice Ministry department to set combat regulations, manned by international law and combat experts, to help determine the IDF's operative instructions along with the military prosecution and the Foreign Ministry's legal advisers. He also proposes expanding the powers of the Justice Ministry's police investigations department to handle combat violations and investigations. He proposes that this unit advise the military police, as well, and also recommends drafting a guide with obligatory combat rules - like "every self-respecting Western army" has.

These are important and interesting suggestions, but one thing is clear even now: If the Turkel Commission even considers implementing Benvenisti's suggestions, Defense Minister Barak and Chief of Staff Benny Gantz will make every effort to prevent it.


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2011年4月14日星期四

Report: Mubarak denies giving the order to shoot demonstrators of the Egypt - Ha'aretz

Stripped of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak said investigators questioning on charges of corruption never awarded order of draw or beat protestors who demanded his eviction, the Egyptian newspaper Al-Masry Al-Youm reported, said Radio Israel.

When questioned, Mubarak said that he had asked the army to intervene in violent clashes to safeguard and protect the Egyptian people. Mubarak added that if someone said that he gave the order to shoot at demonstrators, while this person is a liar.

Mubarak speech 01.02.11

Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, announcing that he will leave in the next elections, in a televised speech to the nation, February 1, 2011.

Between January 25 and February 11, millions of Egyptians filled the streets of cities across the country, in protest against the railway as a rule show with 30 years of Mubarak. After 18 days, Mubarak has finally succumbed to popular pressure and abandoned the reins of power, to resign from his duties.

Since that time, Mubarak and his family have been to one of their houses located holiday in the Sinai resort town of Sharm El-Sheikh. He has been banned from travelling and its assets were frozen. Many of his senior aides have already been questioned or detained pending investigations.

Mubarak also told investigators that he intended to resign as well before him. He said he was satisfied not to smoke when he wanted, four days after protests started, because he had been advised that protesters wanted only the resignation of his cabinet, and that without him, Egypt would be falling into chaos.

There were conflicting reports coming from Al-Masry Al-Youm on the health of Mubarak, Israel Radio reported. Since the arrest of Mubarak, his psychological condition began to deteriorate. But doctors say that he does not have cancer, or any other deadly disease, and that physical health is good.

Mubarak was taken to an intensive care unit Tuesday after having suffered a heart attack during interrogation on charges of corruption, AFP reported Tuesday.

Dozens of protesters picketed at the Hospital where Mubarak was taken, denouncing the President and carrying a sign reading "here's the butcher". They had with Mubarak supporters in a massive security presence.

Security two officials said Mubarak arrived under police protection heavy at the main hospital and two doctors at the hospital, he is out of his naked armored Mercedes and was taken to the presidential suite in the building in the shape of pyramid.


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Palestinians hail international "birth certificate" of a State - Ha'aretz

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Donor countries meeting in Brussels recognized on Wednesday that the "Palestinian Authority (PA) is above the threshold of a functioning state" - an assessment immediately hailed as a "birth certificate" for a Palestinian state by PA premier Salam Fayyad.

In recent months, the World Bank, the United Nations and the International Monetary Fund (IMF) have certified that Fayyad's state-building plans are on track for completion in mid-2011.

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Palestinians enjoy an amusement park ride during Eid el Fitr in the West Bank city of Jenin.

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"We can today conclude that the Palestinian Authority is above the threshold of a functioning state," Norwegian Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Store said after chairing a meeting of the Ad Hoc Liason Committee, a panel of donor countries to the Palestinians.

"It amounts to a birth certificate for the reality of Palestinian statehood," Fayyad told reporters after the talks in Brussels.

The development took place against the backdrop of deadlocked peace negotiations between Palestinians and Israelis and running tensions in North Africa and the Middle East which have heightened Israeli security concerns.

A meeting of the Quartet - the panel of international mediators comprising the European Union, the United States, the United Nations and Russia - scheduled for Thursday in Berlin on the margins of NATO talks was called off, diplomats said.

Speculation has been mounting that the Palestinians would ask the United Nations General Assembly (UNGA) to recognize their statehood in September, if no progress in peace talks had been achieved by then.

But when asked, Fayyad refused to confirm that intention.

"We are not looking for another declaration of statehood, nor are we looking for a virtual state, what we are looking for, again, is a genuine, fully sovereign State of Palestine," including East Jerusalem which Israel captured in 1967, Fayyad said.

The Quartet's envoy, former British Prime Minister Tony Blair, reiterated the need for a "negotiated solution," warning that a unilateral Palestinian move for recognition at the UNGA would split the international community.

"Probably if we are hoping for complete unity in the international community on anything to do with this issue, it would be a rather misplaced hope," he quipped.

On the sidelines of the meeting, the EU signed an agreement granting duty-free access to Palestinian agricultural produce - provided that fruit and vegetables are sold above a set price.

EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton also said the bloc had earmarked 300 million euros ($433 million) in 2011 to further support Palestinian state-building.

The trade deal is expected to give a much-needed boost to the Palestinian economy and to its trade ties with the EU, which amounted only to 57 million euros in 2009, to which exports from Palestine contributed only 6 million euros.

Fayyad called it "a very important agreement," but stressed its application depended on Israel allowing goods out of the Palestinian territories, including the Gaza Strip over which it maintains a tight grip because it is ruled by the Islamist Hamas group.

But Irit Ben-Abba, an Israeli foreign ministry official who also was in Brussels, said "there are no restrictions ... for exports from Gaza to the international markets" since the Israeli government relaxed its embargo on the enclave in December.
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Reply again LatestMost ViewedMost RatedOpen all 29.6417View >Tony Blair Stance Toward The Peace Process Is the Same as the US John Venes 14.04.11 01:21

that is a negotiated solution. But Blair should be reminded that Israelis doing all it can to stop the negotiation. It always find reason notto negotiate and continue the settlement because it will make the Palsstop negotiating. Blair should have a better idea to stop injusticecommitted against the Palestinians and not insist on negotiation. If hedo so, then he just underscores his irrelevance to the ME problem.

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28.3275View >Judgement by the G-D of the universe Bill / NZ 14.04.11 00:25

On these islamic usurpers and all nations who assist in mocking G-D andHis WORD .. All the land of canaan is an unconditional , everlasting ,covenantal land Heritage and inheritance exclusively for the Jewishpeople of the earth .

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27.3173View >Looks grim. 70% of population under 20 and completely ignorant ofhistory, geography, or social norms Jasper - Milwaukee 14.04.11 00:24

Only Israel-less maps in their schools, fatal doses of hate instilledfrom birth. And this doesn't even cover Gaza. Abbas shaking the tincup. Are you ready? The big question is can you control your wackos?The first missile into Israel from a sovereign state means total war.

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26.4017View >And the UN said 'let there be light' and there was light (cue fireworks,celebration etc). Hungrydave 14.04.11 00:15

Good luck pals

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25.6914View >A Palestinian State Misarah- Jordan 14.04.11 00:01

is the only viable solution simply because it's the only right thing todo. Otherwise, we're delaying and postponing the problem while at thesame time complicating it. Complications will later lead to creating somany problem that would affect the whole region and the world. The worldneeds to understand that solving the Israeli-Palestinian issue is in thebest interests of all of us.

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24.5627View >Woo hoo! MK Ultra 13.04.11 23:50

Long overdue! Viva Palestina!

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23.1428View >Which part of this state do Palestinians control? Fayyad says he doesn'twant a fantasy state but that's exactly what he has. Sam 13.04.11 23:48

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22.599View >Soverign Palestine inevitable Gotham 13.04.11 23:37

Some times, wise crow plays over smart and ends up sitting on a drybark. Thats what happened with Bibi. Obama, Biden and Hillary literallybegged him not to start settlemnt activity again but he was in his ownthinking, playing smart with every one. Now, he is isolated and no onein the world except US is ready to believe in him. The soverignPalestine is inevitable and I would like to name Bibi as its founder.

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21.935View >The cart before the horse ! Akram Zekaria. 13.04.11 23:34

If the Palestinians wants to run their own affairs as far as theireconomy& social lives independent of Israel I can't see why thegovernment of israel should objected to that. In fact it was Netanyahuthe one who suggested that ,when the present Israeli government ofIsrael came to power. As I remember it was Natenyahu who suggested tobuild the Palestinian economy first before talking about a PalestinianState. Economy first Politics second. This might also solve the problemof Gazza/Hamas which is the most serious problem for any palestinianstatehood ! What ever Fatah will do, there can't be a Palestinian Statewithout Hamas dissolve & disband itself. Specially now when theArab Countries are without a clear identity !

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20.279View >When did the "no restirictions" on exports from the Gaza Stripbecome effective? This the first that I have heard of it. Observer 13.04.11 23:21

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19.619View >Soon, a new star will be born Rammer 13.04.11 23:15

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18.633View >The Unilateral declaration and Blair Rammer 13.04.11 23:12

When Blair says a unilateral declaration will split the internationalcommunity, whom is he speaking for? Himself, The Quartet (unlikely),Briatain (unlikely), or the US?

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512View >It will be Tony Blair that will side with the US against the rest of the world. Warmonger 14.04.11 02:01

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17.1139View >No foreign organization or grouping will be permitted to establishunilaterally borders of sovereign state. Exchange of birth certificates,of course, encouraged.s 17 13.04.11 22:53

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16.3477View >Poor Eurabia. Jeha of London 13.04.11 22:44

The Europeans have left a mess everywhere in their old colonies,countries where they really really had no business to be and to conquer:pure greed and imperialism. Now they want to redeem themselves by makingthe Jews who do have a business , historical and so on , in these lands, to give them up and leave them in a similar chaos they left theircolonies. Surely they dont' expect the Jews to give up Jerusalem ; Gazamaybe, Jenin maybe, Ramallah maybe and so on. And what about thepolitical scene ? Does Eurabia think a country is born simply bydeclaring it ? What about agreeing the borders with its neighbours ? Ifthe neighbours dont agree, isn't that going to cause more conflict, evenwar(s) ? Is Eurabia so innocent ? And all this for Arab oil ? Suchprostitution ! Poor Eurabia morality, gone out the window.

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15.469View >A diplomat: one who is sent abroad to lie for the good of her country Nonconformist 13.04.11 22:43

And Irit Ben Abba must be a consummate diplomat. "There are norestrictions for exports from Gaza to the international markets,"she says. Probably a decent woman. But sent to Brussels to spout suchself-evident untruths on behalf of a morally bankrupt diplomacy, thatsurely she must wonder whether it really is for the good of her country.Irit, go to the border, and count the goods coming out.

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14.205View >A diplomat: on ewho is sent abroad to lie for the good of her country Nonconformist 13.04.11 22:37

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13.9438View >hahahahahahahahahahah oh yeah USA 13.04.11 22:17

hahahahahahahahahahahah

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12.12581View >History is what happens while we're busy with other things Colin Wright 13.04.11 22:10

The world is responding to a decade of Israeli intransigence by omittingher from the conversation. Notice that Israel no longer has any realsay in when a Palestinian state is formed, what borders it will beassigned, and what restrictions it will operate under. It will simplyhave these terms imposed upon it.

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2548View >Funny...... JJ 13.04.11 23:01

What school did you learn that from? And by going behind the backs ofIsrael and the West to get statehood, things what end up well foranyone. If war is what you like then fine.....but thats what theoutcome is going to be.

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68107View >Tea Party will force our government to stop sending $6bln a year and wewill see how Israel fares. Tony Silver - Kopenhagen. 13.04.11 23:16

Palestinians have nothing to lose anymore!The reason behind the GDPdiscrepancy between Israelis and Palestinians is due to Americanfinancial support to the 6 million israelis over 60 years and nothingelse. The Palestinians have no natural resources and were forced to liveoff the land. Israel burned their olive trees and destroyed theirtourism industry during their occupation. I am hoping that the Tea Partywill force our government to stop sending $6bln a year and we will seehow Israel fares. Taxpayer in America are revolting, enough is enough!.

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50View >happy now, Colin? citizen 13.04.11 23:28

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434View >"Going behind the backs of Israel and the West"? That's funny? Giggles 14.04.11 00:32

I don't see them taking behind anyone's back...and in case you missedit, they are taking it TOO the west...LMAO! The US is the only realholdout...and that probasbly won't be for long. It held out for S.Africa, too...for a little while

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836View >Tony they have the obvious 5 billion to lose... BUILDING ALL OF ISRAEL BABY !! 14.04.11 01:39

and no pal state in sight.

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11.1499View >The donor countries are self-delusional Charles, Parfis, FRANCE 13.04.11 22:10

They believe only what they want to believe, and simply will be throwinggood money after bad.

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7845View >Throwing Good Money After Bad? Like the US Does Every Year with Israel? Doug 13.04.11 23:01

The U.S. has throw away well over $100 Billion to Israel. What has itbought? 44 years of occupation for 3.5 million people, tens of thousandof dead Palestinians and ten thousand Pals illegally imprisoned. Andthat in turn has bought the U.S. the well deserved hatred of one billionMoslems which has cost us Trillions more..

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6121View >Only jews are allowed to go before the UN and get a state? Tony Silver - Kopenhagen. 13.04.11 23:17

Palestinians have the same right to have their own State too. Enoughis enough!.

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2145View >To refresh your memory, Ben Gurion declared the state of Israel and theUN followed AFTER Israel won the war. BUILDING ALL OF ISRAEL BABY !! 14.04.11 01:42

The pals wont have a victory either at the UN or, with Israel. There isno army on earth that can fight and win against Israel, especially, theUN or any arab weenies. No pal state soon, no money, no pals.

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10.856View >"A unilateral Palestinian move for recognition at the UNGA wouldsplit the international community"? Yup...lol UnsavoryEcho 13.04.11 22:08

Between the international community and the US...who will of coursepressure its allies and recipients of its economic aid to go along with it!

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2617View >Tony, your lies are a joke: "israel refuse to have peacetalks"? Abbas refuses to come to them Rob 14.04.11 01:17

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9.12515View >Tony Blair, reiterated the need for a "negotiated solution," Natallie Durson 13.04.11 22:02

Here's the deal Tony. There ain't gonna be no negotiated solution.That means that we need a different solution. Is that OK with you?

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8.7213View >the Pals are extra nice not to demand all of jerusalem. Hebrew, the most moral beer on earth. 13.04.11 21:55

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5913View >Agreed. They should be asking for the 1948 UN mandated borders. Neil 13.04.11 23:13

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2130View >Which they rejected in 1948, choosing war, refugees and occupation,first by Jordan, then by Israel Rob to Neil 14.04.11 01:21

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7.10213View >Birth Certificate of a Statehood Harold 13.04.11 21:54

This shows that a Palestinian State will be created in September 2011and be a new member of the United Nations as promised by President Obama.

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3111View >Only jews are allowed to go before the UN and get a state? Palestinianshave the same right to have their own State too. Enough is enough!. Tony Silver - Kopenhagen. 13.04.11 23:23

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6.36104View >Palestinian Statehood, WOW ! Ron 13.04.11 21:49

Just wondering how one begins operating the Wonder-State-to-be when theWonder State has no infrastructure. No port, no airport, no railsystem, no currency, not much in the way of natural resources, underachieving agricultural production and a bitter rival - enemy namedHamas. Oh right...the Israelis will bend over backwards to help out.NO WAY. You like Unilaterial...now deal with it.

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3218View >Ron, you forgot to mention a GDP equal to that of Zimbabwe Rwanda... AdamTheZionist 13.04.11 23:18

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4212View >No port, no airport, no rail system, no currency, not much in the way ofnatural resources,? Tony Silver - Kopenhagen. 13.04.11 23:24

israel faced the same in 1947!

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413View >Lots of shortcomings jake 13.04.11 23:34

but oh heck you have to start somewhere. September sounds about rightand the Palestinian people will take it from there.

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5.768View >a genuine, fully sovereign State of Palestine birth certificate 13.04.11 21:45

mazal tov

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4.7036View >ha ha ha haha ha ha Dan 13.04.11 21:44

shall I say more? ha ha ha ha ha

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3.2596View >Arafat already declared the pal state back in the '80s, and more thanhalf of the worlds countries recognised it. Until the arabs sit down andnegotiate a peace deal, and borders with Israel, nothing will change.September's circus will be a repeat of 1988, with no change in the legalstatus quo. AdamTheZionist 13.04.11 21:39

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4711View >Adam. This time, if Palestine is not created, the BDS movement will makeIsrael bankrupt. Mark my words. . . Neil 13.04.11 23:21

This is not what I want as it will affect the many decent Israelis whodo not want to suppress the Palestinians any longer. It will be the onlyway to force the creation of the state.

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267View >Repeat of 1988? jake 13.04.11 23:47

You must be stuck in some sort of time warp. Stay there as your postsconsistently amuse.

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424View >No Misarah- Jordan 14.04.11 00:07

not this time dude, it's 2011 where the whole world is watching, peoplesand governments alike. Big difference between 1988 and 2011, thereweren't even cell phones back then.

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2.6811View >How to handle the Hamas/Gaza problem Logios 13.04.11 21:35

"Hamas would respect any peace deal reached between Israel andWestern-backed Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, provided it isapproved in a global Palestinian referendum, the top Hamas official inGaza said Wednesday. In a rare news conference for foreign media, IsmailHaniyeh, the prime minister of Gaza's Hamas government, staked outseemingly pragmatic positions. He said Hamas seeks dialogue with theWest and wants to be "part of the solution, not the problem."(2 Dec. 2010)// Hamas had these positions for some years now. Hamas willeven agree to peace, if the Palestinians vote for it. This change inHamas' implacable initial position resulted from world pressure whichcaused an evolutionary change so as to make Hamas survivable (seeDarwin). It can be assumed however that as long as Hamas is shunned bythe world, they will remain rejectionists; after all, what else would beleft for them? The key is within the Palestinian nation itself. Abbasand Hamas must resolve their differences first and present a unifiedfront to the world. They will be wise to agree to this, even thoughIsrael is trying to prevent it. Unity will strengthen the Palestinianposition, and Israel will gain a more reliable peace partner. As long asIsrael rejects Hamas, there will be projectiles coming over as areminder.

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1236View >solutions aplenty duncan 13.04.11 23:17

as if the palestinian diaspora are going to give up on the right ofreturn, which would make israel an arab state. amusing watching thepalestinians deluding themselves, that they can wipe out a zioniststate. israel has 150-200 answers to that

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927View >It will happen when... Jordan 13.04.11 23:43

Long live Israel! When Gazans fight to throw off Hamas , either byforcing Hamas out by fair elections or revolt( well , I guess one canhope), then and only then might the West Bank and Gaza be on the samepage. Only then will there be a partner for Israel to discuss a Peacewith. Meanwhile Israel must stay strong and survive and continue tostrive for a peaceful resolution.

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1.1428View >Tony Blair says it will spit the international community - On one sideyou'll have Israel and Micronesia, and on the other side, the remaining198 nations of the world Satrap 13.04.11 21:27

(On another point, is Blair still in Israel? If he is would you mindarresting him for war-crimes? It seems only fair, as Lipi and otherIsraelis dare not go to London least they be arrested for Cast Lead, andBlair has some responsibility for 100,000 dead Iraqis)

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616View >Blair Is A Puppet Of The US John Venes 14.04.11 01:08

and, hence, is irrelevant in the peace process. The EU must bepersistent in its efforts to restart peace in the ME. If Israel won'trespect the EU and continue its hard stance against peace, the EU muststop its economic ties with Israel.

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